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It’s “whack a quack” time!

There’s a particularly time-intensive form of blog spam that I’ve started getting emails about. It’s the one where someone oh so generously offers to write a guest post for your blog! Wow, what a relief to have a post I didn’t have to write. It will be of the highest quality, of course, and include many amazing, game-changing treatments for ME/CFS. It’s almost like a charity act, if you think about it.

The thing about this one is the spammer is forced to provide a working email, so that when you accept their once-in-a-lifetime offer, you can contact them. And I always do, and I don’t think I have to tell you what I say. And they never write back.

Until now.

Here is the unedited text of an email I received today:

hi,

i have an [sic] fatigue site and i would love to write a guest article for you on treatments that i have found to help symptoms like insomnia, brain fog, etc.

I’ll write a 700+ word article that is great quality + i’ll do unlimited revisions until you’re happy [sic]

my site is chronicfatiguetreatments.com

Let me know if you’re interested and i’ll send you an article.

First of all, based on this email, I’m not quite convinced of the amazing quality of this proposed article. Second, note that ME/CFS or even just CFS is never mentioned. Just “chronic fatigue.”

I replied to this email in not the most polite and cordial manner. No, I didn’t check the site, as a good skeptic would have, but good skeptics also have this thing called “experience” where sometimes you just don’t need to expend the energy on research. I made it very clear that if I were contacted again, I would write my own post about this little exchange.

And he contacted me again. Which I take as a tacit acceptance of my terms.

Let’s play a game. Don’t check out that site just yet. First I’ll quote the response, then we can see if I was right in the first place. Emphasis is mine.

what are you talking about? i’ve been sick for 11 years and I made a website about it in 2006. I don’t care about the name “chronic fatigue”, because no one knows what the cause of it is anyways. When they find out, they will just end up changing the name, so the name really is not important to me at all.

Way to jump to conclusions, based on no facts. Sorry to bother you, Im [sic] sure you’ve got a game of WOW to get back to [sic]

1. Quacks and their shills always claim to be ill or have recovered from their illness.
2. The name is one of the largest controversies among patients and researchers.
3. There is new and exciting research on both terminology and etiology (see link in 2).

So here we have someone touting remedies for an illness that doesn’t exist (remember, chronic fatigue is a symptom not a diagnosis), who is completely tone-deaf to the needs of the patient community, not to mention the current state of research. Do you want this person recommending treatments to you?

Now let’s check the site, which of course I did in case my quackdar was off and an apology was warranted. Please, in all sincerity, if the site doesn’t immediately set off every quackery and snake oil alarm you have, please ask. I don’t see the need to go through right now it but if necessary, I would be happy to elaborate. What I most hope is that my fellow patients and other spoonies don’t fall prey to this clumsy and elaborate deceit.

So, granted, I did indeed jump to conclusions based on very little info. But as it turned out, the little info I had was excellent, and the conclusions were completely accurate.

Thank you to my email correspondent for providing the material for this post. And now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a “game of WoW” to get back to.

UPDATE 4:39pm: Respondent has changed his tune to how wonderful and nice he is and how he just doesn’t get it. Respondent also continues to insult me in the same breath, thus rendering his assertions extremely doubtful. Respondent further continues to be oblivious to the fact that I’m not in the least bit embarrassed to be a gamer, but apparently has no fresh ITG (Internet Tough Guy) material.

UPDATE 5:12pm: Spammer turns into concern troll, simultaneously appeals to my vanity by offering to be friends. Email harvesters, fellow patients, do feel free to contact him at jameson111@mail.com. It’s okay; he agreed to have it posted here.

UPDATE 6:02pm: With his next contact, I provide some howlers from the site that show the people who run it are not interested in your health. Again, posted with permission.

Chronic fatigue syndrome is a very misunderstood illness with no known cause. Currently it is defined as “severe fatigue that lasts longer than 6 months, which is not relieved by rest”. Also known as CFS, it is diagnosed only by excluding all other medical issues that can lead to these symptoms.

Is is just me or has nobody been paying any attention to recent research (or heck, just reading The Wall Street Journal or the Chicago Tribune)? This is hopelessly outdated to the point where it’s untrue.

This one just needs to be read in its entirety. Note the “high quality” that I’m guessing would be a hallmark of the proposed guest post.

UPDATE 8/30: I’ve ended my correspondence with this person, but his emails from this morning warrant one last question to you, my friends: Would you prefer your heavy metal chelation up your veins or up your ass?

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An open letter to my worst doctors

To my first endocrinologist: Thank you for teaching me to do my homework.

When I came to you, it was after a lifetime of good health, during which the simple things that went wrong with me were easily diagnosed and treated by any medical school graduate. I wasn’t prepared for you. After a first examination, you told me I probably had Graves’ disease, which you did not bother explaining until I asked you to. You sent me for a nuclear medicine test that I later found out was unnecessary and may have harmed my eyes.

Worst of all, you over-prescribed me so much methimazole (a drug that inhibits the thyroid’s function) that I spent my first year as an interpreter in a complete state of zombiehood, minus the cravings for cerebellum. The dose that eventually got me back to healthy thyroid levels was one-twentieth of the amount you prescribed, and never subsequently altered.

During this frustrating and painful time, I found patient communities on the web — not just for support and commiseration, but also where experienced and knowledgeable patients were able to help me figure out exactly what was happening to me. I learned how to read my own labs, and why some of the numbers weren’t as useful as others. It was at this point I dropped you  and went in search of someone who wasn’t apathetic and incompetent.

So thank you for helping me learn how to find good information about medicine on the Internet, as well as connecting with other people in similar situations. Not only did I learn that yes, I can “fire” a bad doctor, but my mother learned from my experience and stood up to her own uncommunicative physician about a serious problem.

To my sports medicine doctor: Thank you for teaching me some qualities I won’t accept in a physician ever again.

When I came to you, for the first time in quite a while, it was perfectly understandable that you misdiagnosed me. I presented with nothing but joint stiffness so bad, I had to take time off work as I was unable to sign.

During my little sabbatical, I started to wonder whether the strange lacy red rash on my arms from a week ago or my subsequent bout of fever had anything to do with my joint problems. The first thing I did was type a few symptoms into the CDC’s search box, and the first result was human parvovirus. It matched exactly. I did a few more searches and all the information lined up.

When I brought this to you about a week later, that’s where you screwed up. You chuckled and said “You can find just about anything on the Internet.” You were supremely confident while you patronized me — even when I explained that my information came from the CDC. You couldn’t imagine a scenario where I had correctly diagnosed myself, which I guess was the reason why you protested testing my blood for antibodies. I’d already learned that many people develop those antibodies without getting sick, so it wasn’t a diagnostic test, but was still used to bolster evidence for the illness.

Thanks to that endo up there, I didn’t let it go. My information didn’t come from the website for “Billy Joe’s Bail Bonds and Medical Advice,” for the love of Mars. I felt (mostly) confident that my request was reasonable. And so you reluctantly agreed to do the test. And my, didn’t your tone change between that visit and the next one, when you informed me that I did in fact have the antibodies. The snotty condescension was gone now. I did appreciate that you apologized to me for the earlier brush-off. But boy, did I learn what kind of physician I needed: one who considered me a legitimate participant in my own healthcare, not an ignorant customer or a hypochondriac. One who didn’t feel the need to puff up like a pissed-off peacock when a patient brought her own information to bear. Oh, I’m sure you get a lot of crazy self-diagnoses. But by patronizing instead of listening, you wrote me off as a stereotype.

If the examination room is bigger on the inside, you have nothing to worry about.

To my third endocrinologist: Thank you for teaching me about physicians’ limits.

What happened? We started out so well. Despite learning through experience and numerous anecdotes about the odd behavior of people in your specialty, I was very happy with you…up to a point. Two points, really.

You were shocked — pleasingly to me — by how badly I’d been overmedicated, and started right away to correct that. You made it seem like you were on a mission to cure my thyroid. I also very much enjoyed how you always sat down with me and explained my lab results without patronizing me. I had learned a lot (for a layperson) about endocrinology by then, and you didn’t blow off my knowledge in our discussions. And I certainly did improve under your care.

Then I became euthyroid (neither hypo- nor hyper-). This should have improved my health greatly, but it didn’t. I still had fatigue, sometimes crushingly so. Our visits seemed increasingly pointless. You developed a motto: “Your thyroid is fine so you should be feeling fine.” It took me probably more time than it should have to realize that you weren’t saying “Let’s look into this some more”; you were saying “My part here is done and I can’t and/or don’t want to go any further than that.”

I realized this was a perfectly reasonable limit for a specialist, and since then every time I’ve seen one (and that ain’t a little), I’m prepared for the point where they really can’t help me anymore.

It was the second point that offended me. The last time I saw you, not only had I been confidently diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) by a new — and current — GP, it had also begun to get worse. When I started seeing you, I worked in the same city, so appointments were a breeze. Then I took a job that was further away, but it was still doable to drive out to you. By my last visit, however, I had to drive an even greater distance, and then of course back again, which had become extremely difficult for me.

Then came the surprise. After that visit, I called for my test results, and was told no. I would have to schedule an office visit to get those numbers. I questioned the nurse receptionist: I had been diagnosed with an illness that made another office visit onerous and likely to cause  my symptoms to flare up. Could I not in this case simply get my results? No, I was told, the doctor wanted to sit down with me as usual to go over them. The receptionist tried to tell me that it was the rules, but I’d received test results over the phone plenty of times before, including being told that I had early-stage cancer. So that story became “it’s the doctor’s rules.” I asked if I could leave a message for you about this situation.

You never called me. And when I called back to find out what happened, all I got was the requirement to come in for an office visit. A visit I would have to pay for both physically and financially. My test results were being ransomed for those costs. I couldn’t believe that a doctor — they care for patients, right? — would not budge on this point, would not show the slightest bit of compassion for my situation. I didn’t believe I was asking for anything extraordinary at all. And in the end, instead of wasting energy being pissed off trying to negotiate this, I decided that your terms were unacceptable, not to mention greedy and unkind. And I was taught not only about physicians’ practical limitations, but also their moral ones. Never did get those test results, not even in the mail.

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Since all of this, I haven’t had any big problems with physicians. I can tell easily during the initial interview whether we’re going to work well together, and on my end I’ve also modified my own conversation patterns and expectations. When I look back at all these situations, I realize that a great deal of the problems rested on my not being an informed patient, not advocating for myself, and taking everything at face value. That would have helped greatly with that first endocrinologist; it definitely came in handy with the sports medicine guy.

So I am really and truly grateful that my negative experiences have produced positive results that will last me the rest of my life. And because I don’t want to leave on this note, I also want to thank the good doctors, the GPs and specialists who really want to help me, but usually can’t. My “CFS doc” has been amazing. I so appreciate the mutual respect of everyone who’s tried to get to the bottom of all my weirdo health stuff. In no way do I take this for granted — how could I, when I know full well what the alternatives are?

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Weekend sendoff: Oh, you again?

Yes, it’s me again. 2011 has not, so far, left me with much blogging energy. There have been major transitions, some still in progress. I am optimistic that things will improve, since I also have a few other projects I’m eager to get back to.

Anyway, I wanted to share two articles about CFS and XMRV that sum up the situation very well. Both touch on the relationship between patients and researchers. The first is from the Chicago Tribune, with a good summary of the state of XMRV research. The die-hards dislike this writer, but I think she’s seeing the big picture and the article reflects that: there are a lot of CFS patients who believe in XMRV, but the research is not yielding more evidence in favor of it.

The chasm between the WPI and its supporters and many in the scientific community is emblematic of a new, modern-day dynamic in which patients keep close tabs on the work of researchers and feel empowered to challenge that work and form strong opinions about the quality of it.

An editorial in Nature goes into more depth on this aspect, and exhorts both sides of the argument to listen to and respect each other. (The first comment, by Brian Foley, mentions different etiologies, something I harp on a lot.)

The challenge for scientists in this field, as in any other that involves patients, is to understand and be motivated by the plight of the patient community without letting their research be swayed by it.

Good reporting on this “mess” is great to see in mainstream media like the Tribune and The Wall Street Journal. However, I’m wondering whether CFS patients, who have tried for decades to shed the images of laziness, mental illness, and hypochondria, aren’t developing a new stereotype for themselves: mouthy and unswayed by science. Obviously, this describes only a portion of the patient community, but as I’ve fretted before, I believe the rest of us may be thought of as guilty by association.

I don’t really try to convince people of which side they should be on anymore. I only ask for clarity of thought and acceptance of solid evidence. If XMRV is proven to be implicated in chronic fatigue syndrome, I will accept that scientific consensus just as I’ll accept the other one that may be forming.

I recognize that there are political and scientific considerations that do cast a reasonable doubt on all the XMRV criticism, and which I don’t follow as closely as many do. I might not be informed enough about those aspects. I also have encountered very little medical resistance and have a doctor who is actually interested to find out exactly what’s wrong with me. Many of the WPI followers have been legitimately burned by their experiences with medical science, and I think they come by their suspicions honestly.

So I follow the science, and hope that the pro-XMRV crowd at least take it into account, which too many do not. Suspicion is okay; conspiracy theory is going too far. Just as people demand understanding and respect from their doctors, so should they reciprocate.

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